so with the judge making findings regarding each one of those types of patents, the damages cal could you slags different it for each one of those. if only one is left standing, you would use a different damages calculation. so the judge is trying to reverse engineer to find out how the jury arrived at its damages findings. >> samsung is trying to get a new trial to be held. is there any hope in that? >> that's sort of the hail mary pass, if you will. if they can succeed with that argument, yes, it could potentially wipe out the entire judgment. but conventional wisdom, it's an uphill battle. >> whatever her decision is, how whether it shape the rest of the case? because presumably they'll keep fighting, it will go to appeals and who knows, might go all the way to the supreme court. what will her decision mean for the rest of the journey of this battle? >> you're right, we can anticipate that it will go up on appeal. i think the dollar amount that we're talking about, if there is ever going to be any settlement discussions, what the dollar amount is where the parties will be working f